Loki season 2 episode 4 spoilers follow.

Loki producer Kevin Wright's claim that the season two finale is about to take the show to some really profoundly beautiful places serves to further drive home his point that superhero movies are real movies.

This is a belief MCU creators have had to defend time and time again, against disparaging comments from critics who think they're anything but. In fact, Killers of the Flower Moon director Martin Scorsese has recently gone as far as to label comic book movies as a "danger" to filmmaking culture, after previously likening Marvel movies to theme park rides.

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To this, Wright offered up the perfect reply. In an interview with Geeks of Colour, the Loki boss retorted that the show is "being built with a lot of love and care, and an eye for the cinematic".

He added: "Any of these shows, any of these movies, anything in this world is about making a character-focused story that audiences can connect with.

"I would challenge anyone watching to say that [this show] is not cinematic, and it's not built with the highest craftsmanship and care."

This care that Wright talks of definitely blossoms through the characters and their ability to bring heart to their respective relationships this season.

We see that in the dynamic between Loki (Tom Hiddleston) and Mobius (Owen Wilson), of course – however, season two has given Tara Strong's Miss Minutes and Gugu Mbatha-Raw's Ravonna Renslayer ample opportunity to shine, too.

This shrewd duo feel as though they are about to lead the finale down a wonderfully darker path, as they plot a scheme to ascend to the top of the TVA.

In an exclusive interview with Digital Spy, Wright shares his vision of a broader future for this new villain team-up – and teases an emotional yet satisfying end to Loki season two.

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Miss Minutes has developed in a really, really interesting way. Did you always intend for her to be like a bad seed? Or was this like a natural development of the story?

A little bit of both. I think [in] season one, we really liked that reveal of, she's holding more cards than she's letting on, and it was about seeing that through.

So much of it then kind of came organically about what her role was with He Who Remains and it pushed it in a lot of interesting directions, but she's always manipulating and has her own angle.

How dangerous is she? And how dangerous is this team-up between her and Renslayer in particular?

I would say a lot of the events of those first four episodes, everything going wrong, is a large part because of her. The TVA falling apart and, I think the choices Renslayer is making – and those are pretty scary choices that she makes – she's certainly, probably being manipulated by Miss Minutes on some level.

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Is there a world – or can you see a world – in which Miss Minutes and Renslayer are the ultimate evil duo?

Miss Minutes/Renslayer I think is intriguing and obviously anyway, Miss Minutes is a new character. We can do all sorts of fun, evil things with her.

Renslayer in the comics has just this rich history of being a really great villain and just the fact that it's Gugu, I would love to see more of her in all sorts of places.

So I think so much of what we're doing anyway, for our entire ensemble is building them out. So like the rest of the MCU can embrace them, and bring them into their own stories.

Victor Timely's death in episode four, how will that affect the other variants? Because obviously, he was the beginning. He was the start of everything. So is that going to affect them in a massive way?

Well, I mean, at the end of episode four, everything's gone. They're all gone, but everybody's in quite a bit of danger.

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You spoke about Miss Minutes and Renslayer potentially expanding into the wider MCU. Are those conversations that have already been had? Or are there rumblings going on?

I think for us, we always try to play in our corner of the sandbox and make it really exciting and make it really appealing and certainly, I think everybody involved hopes that other filmmakers want to pick those up. I think they will. Even in conversations with [Marvel president] Kevin Feige, I know he loves the TVA, he loves these characters.

We've always thought of these two seasons as two chapters of the same book. There are so many other books on that shelf that we can tell stories from.

Will the finale leave fans with more questions than answers? Is there going to be a massive cliffhanger? What can you tell me about it?

I'll say this, we didn't want to do the season one cliffhanger again; two chapters, same book. Your book has to have an ending and be fulfilling in some way.

I can't spoil anything. I don't want to, I'll just say I think those last two episodes – because of where the first four go – we're able to go to some really profoundly beautiful places in those episodes.

Loki season 2 is streaming now on Disney+, with new episodes airing weekly on Fridays.

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TV writer, Digital Spy Janet completed her Masters degree in Magazine Journalism in 2013 and has continued to grow professionally within the industry ever since.  For six years she honed her analytical reviewing skills at the Good Housekeeping institute eventually becoming Acting Head of Food testing.  She also freelanced in the field of film and TV journalism from 2013-2020, when she interviewed A-List stars such as Samuel L Jackson, Colin Firth and Scarlett Johansson. In 2021 she joined Digital Spy as TV writer where she gets to delve into more of what she loves, watching copious amounts of telly all in the name of work. Since taking on the role she has conducted red carpet interviews with the cast of Bridgerton, covered the BAFTAs and been interviewed by BBC Radio and London Live. In her spare time she also moonlights as a published author, the book Gothic Angel.